| Topic: Current Topic: Better Ways Out of Iraq |
| hogeye | Posted: 7/6/2005 4:31:00 PM - View this Thread
RC> The funniest thing is, after all is said and done, the traditional term of "liberal" applies to a tee with Bush's policy in Iraq! Let's see: Tax The American People and Spend The Money On Some Poor Unfortunates Somewhere Else? Shit! That's Liberal shit!
Right on, RC. Have you finally realized that there's not a dime's worth of difference between the two factions of the Welfare-Warfare Party? Congratulations.
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| Topic: Crime & Punishment: Posse Commitatus to End? |
| hogeye | Posted: 7/6/2005 4:27:00 PM - View this Thread
I thought the Posse Commitatus ended in the 1970's, with the commencement of the War on Drugs. Militarized commando raids (without knocking!) have been common in the Evil Empire for decades. The Posse Commitatus is so dead it's smelling... Where've you been, Mr. Van Winkel?
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| Topic: Youth Issues: The Draft |
| hogeye | Posted: 7/6/2005 4:24:00 PM - View this Thread
Good. I guess indentured servitude isn't all bad. Ex-slaves may appreciate freedom better than others, and milfare recipients have seen first-hand the diabolical evil of statist aggression.
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| Topic: Conspiracies: US Govt. Game Plan for Private Property |
| hogeye | Posted: 7/4/2005 8:41:00 PM - View this Thread
Force shits on reason's back. - Benjamin Franklin
Nimp, both centralized and decentralized systems can make bad policy. The question is which is better for your liberty in the long run. There is the winner-take-all system, where a bad policy screws everybody, but a good one helps everybody. And there is a decentralized system, where good and bad policies compete in pluralism. I favor the latter for various reasons.
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| Topic: Youth Issues: The Draft |
| hogeye | Posted: 7/4/2005 8:20:00 PM - View this Thread
Congratulations, Rav.
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| Topic: Conspiracies: US Govt. Game Plan for Private Property |
| hogeye | Posted: 7/3/2005 11:53:00 AM - View this Thread |
I am ambivalent about the ruling. There are two issues.
1) Should a government steal land from people?
2) Who should have jurisdiction over such a case?
My answers are 1) No, and 2) local folks.
I think that the city government of New London did wrong. The land-grabbers are criminals and should be resisted. If the sheriff or pigs try to enforce the land-grab, I would approve of local citizens shooting them down like dogs.
However, the Supreme Court made the right decision because (according to their charter, the US Con) they have no jurisdiction over intra-state issues. I have not read the various opinions of e.g. Thomas and the others, but I suspect that, to some of them, this was a federalism (aka state's rights) issue.
Do you really want the central government telling local town governments or provinces what they can and can't do internally. I'm consistent in my support for decentralization and devolution. I don't want the central govt telling states whether they can allow/forbid abortion, whether they can allow/forbid cannabis, or whether they can allow/forbid 10-commandments posters. Why would I support central govt power telling localities what they can and can't do regarding land use?
So in short, the New London city council members who voted for the land grab should be tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail. But it was none of the Supreme Court's business.
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| Topic: Off Topic: Got this in my mail...just too damn true |
| hogeye | Posted: 7/3/2005 11:33:00 AM - View this Thread
Very interesting. Totally bunk, but interesting. I guess the two biggest lies in the poem are 1) people get rich on welfare, and 2) it's easy for foreigners (Pakistanis?) to immigrate to the US.
Also interesting to me is the (attempted) message of the poem. The propagandist apparently wants the reader to conclude that immigration should be stopped. But a more logical conclusion would be that welfare should be abolished, and that Americans are amazingly stupid to put up with such plunder and redistribution.
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| Topic: Youth Issues: The Draft |
| hogeye | Posted: 7/3/2005 11:22:00 AM - View this Thread
All right! Good riddance. Sixteen fewer milfare dumbshits. Good for the freedom of Afghanistan, and good for the gene pool! It's funny how they list the names of the ignorant/immoral dipshits who died for corrupt rulers.
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| Topic: Current Topic: Better Ways Out of Iraq |
| hogeye | Posted: 7/2/2005 3:25:00 PM - View this Thread
The LP supports occupation (and the resulting murders of civilians) for another year. (pg 4 para 1)
The LP wants the US State to subsidize the puppet Iraq State indefinitely, giving the puppet regime "complete control over the spending of funds." (pg 5 para 3)
The LP says nation-building is great - the USEmpire is "obligated to make sure Iraq becomes a stable, independent and functional country." (pg 5 last para)
I'm too disgusted to read the rest. Fucking liberventionists. With "libertarians" like this, who needs neo-conservatives?
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| Topic: Politics: What Would Gibers Do? |
| hogeye | Posted: 6/11/2005 4:04:00 PM - View this Thread
Yeah, you found my Stateless Zone.
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| Topic: Politics: What Would Gibers Do? |
| hogeye | Posted: 6/10/2005 12:32:00 PM - View this Thread
I tried it, but got disgusted when it wouldn't allow a stateless society. The model is grossly biased toward authoritarianism.
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| Topic: Off Topic: What's your favourite quotation? |
| hogeye | Posted: 6/5/2005 11:51:00 AM - View this Thread
"Monetary policy is - aside from war - the primary tool of state aggrandizement. It ensures the growth of government, finances deficits, rewards special interests, and fixes elections." - Murray Rothbard
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| Topic: Off Topic: What's your favourite quotation? |
| hogeye | Posted: 6/3/2005 8:37:00 AM - View this Thread
There is no greater fallacy than the belief that aims and purposes are one thing, while methods and tactics are another. This conception is a potent menace to social regeneration. All human experience teaches that means cannot be separated from the ultimate aims. The means employed become, through individual habit and social practice, part and parcel of the final purpose; they modify it, and presently the aims and means become identical. ... The whole history of man is continuous proof of the maxim that to divest one's methods of ethical concepts is to sink into the depths of utter demoralization. - Emma Goldman
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| Topic: Off Topic: What's your favourite quotation? |
| hogeye | Posted: 5/30/2005 8:41:00 PM - View this Thread
22. The Choice Before Us
This question of legal plunder must be settled once and for all, and there are only three ways to settle it: 1. The few plunder the many. 2. Everybody plunders everybody. 3. Nobody plunders anybody. We must make our choice among limited plunder, universal plunder, and no plunder. The law can follow only one of these three. Limited legal plunder: This system prevailed when the right to vote was restricted. One would turn back to this system to prevent the invasion of socialism. Universal legal plunder: We have been threatened with this system since the franchise was made universal. The newly enfranchised majority has decided to formulate law on the same principle of legal plunder that was used by their predecessors when the vote was limited. No legal plunder: This is the principle of justice, peace, order, stability, harmony, and logic. - Frederic Bastiat, "The Law"
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| Topic: The Military: Myth: Milfare Recipients fought for Freedom |
| hogeye | Posted: 5/29/2005 9:49:00 AM - View this Thread |
On memorial day weekend, it is appropriate to demolish the number one statist bromide repeated ad nauseum by flaghumpers: The claim that statist milfare recipients fight/fought for your freedom.
Today, young people fight for free education and other goodies provided from statist plunder. They fight for ruling elites, who have rented their lives out to benefit a few favored Big Oil cronies. They fight to enrich munitions-makers and certain government employees, departments, and agencies. Obviously, mass-murder of Afghani people and Iraqi people, and poisoning land in Colombia, and so on do not enhance freedom for people in North America at all. On the contrary, as 9/11 showed, such military interventionism puts American people's lives in danger due to the all-too-predictable blowback.
So the current invasions and occupation do nothing for freedom. What about the past? Well, the Vietnam invasion did nothing for American freedom. As with all wars, it simply increased the power of the State, thereby diminishing freedom. The Korean "police action" didn't help any Americans's freedom. On the contrary, it set the precedent for executive initiation of war. (So much for the US Con "chaining" the State.)
Let's try going back further, to see if we can find a US war "for freedom." The World War II Atlantic theatre was just another stupid European war which the US could have avoided. Roosevelt, anxious to become known as a war-leader president rather than a *failed to get out of the depression* president, managed to sucker the Jap State into attacking (after organizing a crippling embargo against the Japanese islands). It was sleazey politics, and definitely not geared toward American freedom. And as usual, the vast increase of government power never did return to pre-war level. (Did you know that income tax withholding was a 'temporary' wartime measure?) While WWII didn't help American freedom, it did make the world safe for Stalin and Mao. The freedom on Poland, ostensibly the whole reason for the European war, was soon forgotten - Poland was sacrificed to Stalin after Hiter was gone.
World War I was your basic Euro-squabble - the kind that Jefferson warned against getting involved in. It was a disaster for US people's freedom. The central government took over the railroads, created War Boards for central control over industry - and in short created the model for the fascist State we have today. I guess we have to go back even further in time to find a US war "fought for freedom."
The Spanish-American War was the first blatent imperialist war. Mass-murdering Phillipinos and occupying their islands did nothing to enhance the freedom of US people. "Freeing" Cuba by setting up a US-friendly dictatorship didn't either. We must look further back.
The War of Northern Aggression ("Civil War") was fought over tariffs mainly, with slavery a propaganda issue (kind of like Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq). The Confederacy was fighting for independence, just like the American colonists of 1770's. So I think it is fair to say that the southerners in the Civil War fought for freedom - at least for white guys - and self-determination. Before the War of Northern Aggression, there were a few notable fights for freedom: The Revolutionary War (a misnomer - it was actually a war of secession, not revolution), the Whiskey Rebellion, and Shay's Rebellion.
So when some former milfare recipient claims he fought for your freedom, you can now answer, "Not unless you're over a century old and fought for the Confederacy!"
Servile Milfare Recipient poster 11x17 pdf:
http://arkansas.indymedia.org/media/all/display/1550
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| Topic: annoy.com: I found this on WPYO a while back |
| hogeye | Posted: 5/27/2005 10:43:00 AM - View this Thread |
Clinton> The sad thing I have learnt about people holding polemic views is that a great deal of them would prefer not to be exposed to anything that challenges their perceptions or pre-existing ideas. They would rather wallow in the comfort of agreement, savoring every reinforcement that perpetuates what they already hold true. This is true on both the left and the right.
Very true. The two most intolerant forums I've been banned from are capitalism.org and infoshop.org, an ultra-capitalist and ultra-socialist site. Then again, there exist some extremist sites that are tolerant.
One problem with "wallowing in agreement" is that they tend to unify a range of opposing views into one big strawman. E.g. 'Liberals' will treat 'conservatives' as one unified devil, overlooking the quite different positions of neo-cons, fundies, paleos, etc. Similarly, 'conservatives' tend to look at 'liberals' as a unified ideology, when actually it is also a coalition of diverse groups, e.g. unionists, anti-free-traders, civil rights actists, welfare-statists, and so on. Here's what Lew has to say:
The only thing that seems to unite the myriad special interests on the right is that each one has some special project for the state to support, so they all agree to support big government as a kind of vast logrolling project. If each group does its part, everyone stays on top.
If this plan sounds familiar, it is because the political right – the red-state fascist right – has only recently fully come around to discovering what the left discovered long ago: you don’t have to agree with the goal of your compatriots so long as you agree on the statist means to achieve that goal. This is how the Democratic National Convention can look like the cantina scene in Star Wars, but somehow it all works. What has been lacking on the right has been an attempt to present a rationale to the multitudes on how the right can operate the same way.
Thus do we have "The New Fusionism" by Joseph Bottum appearing in First Things. He begins by pointing out that the many factions on the right have hugely disparate interests – "abortion, tax cuts, school vouchers, judicial overreach, the government’s bloated budget, bioethics, homosexual marriage, the creation of democracies in the Middle East, federalism, immigration, the restoration of religion in the public square – on and on."
These interest groups would not otherwise get along and yet they appear to, says Mr. Bottum. Let’s cut to the last scene: they have all agreed to favor state intervention in their area, in exchange for which they support state intervention in everyone else’s area. This is the new fusionism: everyone agrees to back state building. Lew Rockwell, Conservative Euphemisms for State Aggression
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| Topic: Crime & Punishment: Encryption as Evidence of Crime? |
| hogeye | Posted: 5/26/2005 9:55:00 PM - View this Thread
PGP is still very secure cryptographically. NSA may be able to cryptanalyze it, given plenty of expensive supercomputer time and an edge, e.g. weak passphrase. The fact is, PGP is so strong the authorities don't even try to cryptanalyze it. They use spook techniques to get your passphrase. E.g. A covert keylogging program or hidden camera.
If you have to be super-secure, probably a second offline portable computer is needed.
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| Topic: Off Topic: What's your favourite quotation? |
| hogeye | Posted: 5/26/2005 9:41:00 AM - View this Thread
"Milfare" is one of my better, more popular, coinages. "Flaghumper" is another. But I don't get credit for "statist quo." I do get credit for "Stateholm syndrome."
I think "milfare" is quite apt. Here are soldier chumps on the State dole - creating zero or negative value for people (as opposed to ruling politicians and their cronies.) It pauperizes them even worse than welfare recipients. They are seduced into semi-permanent moral impoverishment. Murdering civilians and torturing people tends to grossly warp the moral faculty. Ask someone who's come back. Even simply agreeing to murder for rulers does damage.
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| Topic: Crime & Punishment: Encryption as Evidence of Crime? |
| hogeye | Posted: 5/26/2005 9:31:00 AM - View this Thread |
Yeah, that sucks. That's why people who support free speech should have PGP on their computers and use it at least occasionally. If PGP becomes ubiquitous, then the jackboots' rationalization goes away. Yeah, they'll still invade and plunder, but most people will realize their gross criminality, and the State loses some of its aura of legitimacy.
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| Topic: Off Topic: What's your favourite quotation? |
| hogeye | Posted: 5/25/2005 11:48:00 AM - View this Thread
What's that? The latest rape by a US milfare recipient stationed in Japan?
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| Topic: The Military: What is War? |
| hogeye | Posted: 5/18/2005 2:35:00 PM - View this Thread |
Here's my updated version of Fixin' to Die Rag:
I Feel Like I'm Fixin to Die Rag #589
(Apologies to Country Joe McDonald)
Come on all of you big stong men
Uncle Sam is at it again
Got himself in another beef
Way out yonder in the Middle East
Gimme a gas mask gimme a gun
We're gonna have a whole lot of fun.
And it's one two three
What are we fighting for?
Don't ask me; don't care in the least
My next stop is the Middle East
And it's five six seven
Open up them pearly gates
There ain't no time to wonder why
WHOOPIE, we're all gonna die.
Send mother's children, boy or girl
Pack 'em off to foreign soil.
Come on fathers, don't hesitate,
Send 'em off before it's too late.
Be the first one on your block
To have your kid come home in a box.
And it's one two three...
Well, come on generals, let's move fast;
Your big chance has come at last.
Gotta test those smart bombs, planes, and gear
There's more where those came from. Don't fear!
And you know that peace can only be won
When we've blown 'em all to kingdom come.
And it's one two three...
Munitions makers you've got it made
Supplying the Army with the tools of the trade,
Come on oil firms, builders too,
Help our rulers, they'll help you!
War's good for biz, hip-hip-hurray
But only if it's far away.
And it's one two three...
Play with mad dogs might get bit
Play with peoples might get hit
After all the things our rulers done
Can't be surprised at 911
Give up your freedom that's the cure
Our rulers tell us that's for sure.
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| Topic: Technology: Surveillance Nation |
| hogeye | Posted: 5/12/2005 9:26:00 AM - View this Thread
Silver lining: The more onerous and totalitarian the State gets, the quicker people will switch to real money. Does your community have an alternate non-statist currency yet?
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| Topic: Politics: Trent Lott: Cracker Supreme |
| hogeye | Posted: 5/12/2005 9:20:00 AM - View this Thread
As a wise man (Fredrick Bastiat) once wrote:
Enforced Fraternity Destroys Liberty
Mr. De Lamartine once wrote to me thusly: "Your doctrine is only the half of my program. You have stopped at liberty; I go on to fraternity." I answered him: "The second half of your program will destroy the first." In fact, it is impossible for me to separate the word fraternity from the word voluntary. I cannot possibly understand how fraternity can be legally enforced without liberty being legally destroyed, and thus justice being legally trampled underfoot. Legal plunder has two roots: One of them, as I have said before, is in human greed; the other is in false philanthropy.
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| Topic: The Military: What is War? |
| hogeye | Posted: 5/12/2005 8:48:00 AM - View this Thread |
Yes!!! Phil Ochs! He da (song-writin') man. I haven't heard "One More Parade," but I'd like to. I have heard two others of his anti-war songs: "Draft-Dodger Rag" and "I Ain't Marching Anymore."
I Ain't Marching Anymore
By Phil Ochs
Oh I marched to the battle of New Orleans
At the end of the early British war
The young land started growing
The young blood started flowing
But I ain't marchin' anymore
For I've killed my share of Indians
In a thousand different fights
I was there at the Little Big Horn
I heard many men lying
I saw many more dying
But I ain't marchin' anymore
chorus:
It's always the old to lead us to the war
It's always the young to fall
Now look at all we've won with the sabre and the gun
Tell me is it worth it all
For I stole California from the Mexican land
Fought in the bloody Civil War
Yes I even killed my brother
And so many others
And I ain't marchin' anymore
For I marched to the battles of the German trench
In a war that was bound to end all wars
Oh I must have killed a million men
And now they want me back again
But I ain't marchin' anymore
(chorus)
For I flew the final mission in the Japanese sky
Set off the mighty mushroom roar
When I saw the cities burning
I knew that I was learning
That I ain't marchin' anymore
Now the labor leader's screamin' when they close the missile plants,
United Fruit screams at the Cuban shore,
Call it "Peace" or call it "Treason,"
Call it "Love" or call it "Reason,"
But I ain't marchin' any more.
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| Topic: Off Topic: What's your favourite quotation? |
| hogeye | Posted: 5/11/2005 3:50:00 PM - View this Thread
Conservative - a statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others." - Ambrose Bierce
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