Teacher Student Sex

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This group discusses the growing issues revolving around teachers having sex with students. While there are several issues within this group, the catalyst for this group was a teacher in Texas who was arrested and is serving a 5 year sentence for having sex with 5 high school students (all 18 years of age or older). All the students testified that the sex was consensual and they did not feel victimized,.

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  • RoxyTreat
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    Chanty...what did you want to punish the students for? I am not saying they did not do wrong. I do want to know what you found them guilty of. Did the teacher not climax?
     
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    Chanty
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    I agree that as per the 'law' the students are viewed as innocent, so no Roxy I was not implying that 'you' were reading the 'law' wrong.

    This is my point of view...

    I disagree with the 'law' in this regard due to the moral stance of it or as you state the 'right and wrong' aspect. I feel that these students should be punished too.
    fuhnboy
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    Chanty,
    I agree with you from the standpoint of the students were legally adults and should share in the responsibility. But under the Texas law, they did not commit a crime.
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    Personally I don't support any educator having sexual relations with students - educators are there to educate and students are there to learn and not by 'hands on sex education'. Parents have this belief that the kids / students are safe at the schools. What does this do to that belief?

    Yes, we know that relationships can form and evolve and some students have crushes on their teachers or professors or vise a versa. However schools are educational bodies and should maintain that lawful standard. But, sadly there is also the abuse side of this, whereby the student is the victim and the educator the guilty.

    So the whole area of educator / student relations becomes grayed out.

    Just because a student may be of age to be a consenting adult, doesn't generally mean that they are fully consenting, especially not in the abuse cases.

    So do we allow for 'loop holes in a law' or just prosecute all, including those that are considered to be 'innocent'?

    Surely if both 'consenting adults' any student / educator could wait until they no longer hold the student / educator 'relationship', as in the student graduates from the educational body.

    My question is this - what the hell is a mother of 3 and married woman thinking when she decides to have group sex with 5 'young men'. I feel sorry for her husband and kids. However having said that I also think that perhaps 5 years prison is not the correct punishment due to the details of this case. There are victims here in the form of her 3 kids and husband who was away fighting for his country. Should they be forced to suffer more due to her actions. What she has done is not right, but I don't feel that it deserves 5 years in prison.

    As for the 5 'young men' they are not victims here - they were clearly consenting adults and should be punished in some way too. Whether revoking any scholarships gained. Community work, etc. All six parties are guilty of this crime and should all receive some form of punishment.
     
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  • fuhnboy
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    While as an obvious rule of thumb, teachers should not be engaging in any non job description activities with their students (Grades k-12). What I found interesting about this particular case was that the students were all 18 years of old or older, the sex was consensual, none of the students felt victimized, and none of them wanted the teacher punished. Furthermore the teacher claims she was victimized as she never consented to the filming of the events (which ultimately were used to sentence her to 5 years in prison). This was due to a law in Texas which states it is illegal for a teacher to have sex with a student in Grades K-12 regardless of their age. So I will begin with this question and welcome feedback. Does the law in Texas in any way violate the constitutional rights of the students (as they were complicit in the crime) yet as consenting adults are free to engage in these type of activities?

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/group-sex-scandal-texas-teacher-sentenced-years-prison/story?id=17028716
     
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    RoxyTreat
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    As I read the law...it does mean that teachers may sleep with students from other schools if that student has reached the age of sexual consent. As far as why the students were not charged as accomplices in the sex crime that we are discussing...the answer is simple. The specific Texas law that was leveraged against the teacher does not provide for this. The sole perpetrators of the crime by this law are the educators. Regarding the sex...the students are innocent under the law. I am still investigating the video taping aspect of this incident...but any illegal activity associated with it...such as unlawful surveillance...would be separate and legally distinct from the sex crime. One interesting thing I did learn...the person who sponsored the law has reportedly claimed that it has been used against teachers in ways he never intended. Talk about screwed up.
    RoxyTreat
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    Kay...this is how it works in the Great State of Texas. First...Texas Penal Code under Sexual Offenses (Title 5 Section 21)...which ironically follows the "educators not steaming up the windows with students section"...prohibits the nonconsensual videotaping of sexual activities. In fact...nonconsensual videotaping of such activities is a jail-able offense in Texas. The exact level of "seriousness" of the crime is related to other factors such as intents and motivations but the taping alone is that serious. Translation...these students under discussion in our group committed a crime. This is not related to the crime that the teacher is guilty of...but a crime it is. Second...these students also engaged in the tort of illegal surveillance. This is an actionable invasion of privacy. The teacher...therefore...can sue the students for damages. Third...and this is dependent upon details that I am still investigating...there may be a crime of conspiracy on top of the other issues. The conspiracy crimes may be numerous as well and...if so...could...if prosecuted...carry quite a large amount of jail time too. I plan to keep digging. This is a very interesting case and might show prejudicial application of the law. We'll see.
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    The laws that govern intimate (sexual) relationships between "teachers" and "students" should be no different then the laws that govern such relationships in the general public with respect to age of consent, consent, sexual harassment and abuse. However, high school teachers should not be able to engage in intimate relationships with students that attend the school where they teach.
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